But yeah, I definitely wanted to feel that heaviness of, especially, like you said, of the addiction. So I went to Mexico, stayed there for a couple of days, and learned how to surf to have that sense of what’s written on the page on the scripts, and the talks with the producers and everybody of what the character was. I think for every surfer that I’ve met, it’s like a way of life if you surf, I guess. I watched a lot of hours of real footage of O.J. I really wanted to portray that to have that vulnerability when I was playing him, I really focused on that, on having him not being just this swagger guy that’s dealing with two ex-wives and being really good at what he does, but to have that heaviness of the addiction, plus the accident plus ex-wives, plus the case. The preparation was … I have some friends that have dealt with that, with addiction, and I don’t know, it’s really painful. Can you speak to just the preparation that went into covering such sensitive subject matter?

It’s a constant battle for anybody with those demons.

You have this great scene where you mention that addiction never stops. So lots of collars and very complex, and vulnerable. I mean, Mickey Haller is one of those characters that … he’s larger than life. I can’t say much, but yeah, it was such a pleasure playing Mickey Haller, a character that is loved by so many. We find him at the beginning in the lowest part of his life, and then he’s climbing. It was a pleasure, you know? First, you’re dealing with the whole arc, you can see it. What was so rewarding about having 10 episodes to thoroughly explore this character? Rehab, failed relationships, he’s such a talented lawyer, and he’s kind of looking for redemption. There’s so much to Mickey to play with, for you. To have two ex-wives and, you know, dealing with them at the same time and one is like a motor for him, for his work and the other one makes him be a good man and makes him grounded. Mickey Haller, he sees the best in people, you know what I mean? He simplifies things instead of going into the drama, he’s like, “Okay, Lorna is amazing at what she does and we have great chemistry, let’s work together.” You know? “Let’s just forget about our past as a couple.” I find that very complicated, but very, very cool to have. Manuel Garcia-Rulfo: I think it’s so cool.

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